Friday 7 March 2014

To JER. POST - March 7, 11.56am

From: g87
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:56 AM
Subject: RE POLL - ALLEGED FRAUD: they have actually responded!

Nati Gabbay, JPost.com Managing Editor
Dear Mr Gaggay

I have placed my correspondences with the progenitors of the infamous ‘allegedly’ fraudulent polls that everyone seemingly has accepted – on a confidential blogsite that I rarely use.
Here are the links: they have actually responded!

You could run this as a soap – opera?
However I will soon run out of patience.

Kindly advize if you NOW regard this as the major scoop of the year: you have first right of refusal.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner

Links to conf blog:
From: g87
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 2:48 PM
Subject: Index of sorts of my recent Israel / BDS / debunking Israel’s enemies:
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From: g87
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 11:49 AM
Subject: PLEASE REDACT YOUR POLLS
Dear Professor Menachem Ben – Sasson
and
Professor Maoz
Thank you Professor Ben – Sasson for eliciting a pair of email responses from Professor Maoz.
Thank you Professor Maoz for the pair of emails as cut and pasted below.
Your response was misfiled – thus the minor delay.
However, Professor Maoz: kindly respond to the questions embedded in my email to Prof. Ben – Sasson.
As well as the below
  1. You have also raised the obvious question: why have all matters material to your poll stated that they were organized by your University if it was indeed done by ‘’a professional polling company’’?
  2. Given that you write that there were ‘’no inducements offered ‘’– you may care to satisfy me as to how it is possible to elicit so much information from people without any inducements?
  3. The suggestion / implication is that those that responded to the astonishing range of questions must by the very nature of these responses been ‘committed’ to some cause. If only so indicated by the heroic, prolix, extensive responses. I further suggest that there must have been aborted interviews of people not so committed to the cause.
  4. Oh – the ‘cause’ I postulate is indeed the subject of the poll: THE TWO STATE SOLUTION.
  5. So I ask; how many interviews were aborted and by logical implication not counted in your results?
  6. If they were counted – how could this be? This elicits too many hypothesees – which I will leave alone pending your response.
  7. Kindly advise in what order were the questions asked – and obviously answered?
  8. What context was given to the respondents – say  that there have been 40 disparate peace conferences – all aborted for lack of genuine interest from the Palestinians?
  9. IF this context – and more importantly the ‘context’ I allude to was only what was published in your massive doc below and in the earlier email to Prof. Ben – Sasson was the only ‘context’ then i impugn this as being utterly devoid of context / background briefing.
  10. Indeed – I postulate that it would be wrong if my item #8 above was only  used: you would have to include the Palestinian version of history – or merely the hundreds of articles on the moribund peace processes much beloved by those besotted with peace and conflict studies. OH! YOU EFFECTIVELY DID THAT BY IGNORING REALITY IN WHAT YOU PUBLISHED WAS THE PRODUCT OF THE POLL! I reiterate in case I am not clear – you messed up – or the pollster messed up basis what any reasonable person would understand intuitively from MERE RESULT OF THE POLL!!
  11. Again – exactly what were all the questions asked of those who stayed with you to the nether world in polling?
  12. And an important new question: do you realize that if you were to have merged the 2 main questions – OR WERE TO HAVE GIVEN AWAY QUESTION 2 AS YOU ASKED QUESTION 1 – YOU WOULD HAVE GOT A WILDLY DIFFERENT ANSWER?
  13. NOTWITHSTANDING WHAT OTHER VARIABLES WOULD HAVE RESULTED EX ALL THE ABOVE?
  14. AND ALL THE BELOW?
  15. And – please respond to what I wrote earlier: here it is:
    I now request that she / you respond to the items 1 – 20.   http://www.ncpp.org/?q=node/4
    Particularly #2,4,6,7,9 and particularly #15
    I wish you well in answering.
    You may care to contemplate that your poll has been widely quoted as the 63% / 53% AKA ‘’VAST MAJORITY OF ISRAELIS’’
    I have no time to clarify: but you know what I allude to.
    Note that I realize the complexity of comparing the 2 results. It is far too complex for now – if at all.
    Please do not seek defence in this – because I think it would be a grave error on your part.
    This has not been properly edited – but it will do!
    It is time the polls results were publically redacted and a new one avoiding the chimeras you plainly created was made.
    Shalom
    Geoff Seidner
From: g87
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: To President Ben – Sasson Hebrew University

Office of the President

About our President
Prof. Menahem Ben-Sasson
President, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Dear President Ben – Sasson
I request that you elicit a response from Prof. Maoz: I have now emailed her thrice now.
It seems to me sad that she is reticent / refuses to respond.
My questions are simple enough: her reticence has forced me to contemplate if she is hiding anything.
It is incumbent on pollsters to proudly vouchsafe their modus vivendi.
I now request that she / you respond to the items 1 – 20.   http://www.ncpp.org/?q=node/4
Particularly #2,4,6,7,9 and particularly #15
Please appreciate that I have not studied the above article: no doubt there will be more questions.
Prof. Moaz will be proud to assure us that  her work re the polls are all based on sound protocols.
I also have my own question: what sort of uniforms were those conducting the polls wearing on the Palestinian side?
And how were the pollsters introducing themselves on the Israeli side  on the telephone?
Perhaps the most important is the original brief question /s below.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
Melbourne
Australia
 
From: g87
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:44 AM
Subject: Kindly respond, I beseech you. Please reply
Dear Professor Maoz
Kindly respond, I beseech you.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
From: g87
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:44 PM
Subject: Please reply
Dear Professor Maoz
I hope to have your response soon.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
From: g87
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:48 PM
Subject: Survey 2 State solution

Prof. Ifat Maoz

Hebrew University

 

Dear Professor Maoz
I wish to be advised as to exactly how the survey was conducted at your end and whether there was any variation with respect to how Prof. Khalil Shikaki carried out matters at his end.
As a simple overview – I think there were a lot of questions asked: what was offered as compensation / inducement for both / either groups?
I would expect to be paid for responding to such a lot of questions. There is nothing anomalous /  wrong with the above scenario re compensation.
Regards
Geoff Seidner
Melbourne
Australia
 
-----Original Message-----
From: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 2:47 PM
To: g87
Subject: Re: Kindly respond, I beseech you. Please reply
Hi
I am away in Stanford so have not opened this email.
The poll was conducted by a professional polling company using the 
procedures and norms it uses to make sure that randomly sampled 
unbiased and validly done. Same norms used internationally to conduct 
such polls.
No compensation given.
Khalil is very professional but you should ask him directly about his poll.
Generally the methods are comparable but there are some differences to 
adjust for the different life conditions.
Best,
Ifat
Quoting g87 <g87@optusnet.com.au>:
> Dear Professor Maoz
> Kindly respond, I beseech you.
> Shalom
> Geoff Seidner
>
> From: g87
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:44 PM
> To: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
> Subject: Please reply
>
> Dear Professor Maoz
> I hope to have your response soon.
> Shalom
> Geoff Seidner
>
> From: g87
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:48 PM
> To: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
> Subject: Survey 2 State solution
>
> Prof. Ifat Maoz
> Hebrew University
>
> Dear Professor Maoz
> I wish to be advised as to exactly how the survey was conducted at 
> your end and whether there was any variation with respect to how 
> Prof. Khalil Shikaki carried out matters at his end.
>
> As a simple overview – I think there were a lot of questions asked: 
> what was offered as compensation / inducement for both / either 
> groups?
>
> I would expect to be paid for responding to such a lot of questions. 
> There is nothing anomalous /  wrong with the above scenario re 
> compensation.
>
> Regards
> Geoff Seidner
> Melbourne
> Australia
>
>
> http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Hebrew-U-survey-finds-most-Israelis-and-Palestinians-support-two-state-solution-336744
>
> http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-israelis-palestinians-support-2-state-solution/
>
> http://support.huji.ac.il/HeaderMenu/news-events/press/truman_survey_two-states/
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/smarthuji/ifatmaoz
>
> http://new.huji.ac.il/en/article/18531
> http://bit.ly/de13poll.
>
> ---
> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus 
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Professor Ifat Maoz
Hebrew University of Jerusalem
On Sabbatical leave at the Department of Psychology, Stanford University
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-----Original Message-----
From: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 2:51 PM
To: g87
Subject: Re: Kindly respond, I beseech you. Please reply
We do not compensate respondents in these polls.
Quoting g87 <g87@optusnet.com.au>:
> Dear Professor Maoz
> Kindly respond, I beseech you.
> Shalom
> Geoff Seidner
>
> From: g87
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:44 PM
> To: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
> Subject: Please reply
>
> Dear Professor Maoz
> I hope to have your response soon.
> Shalom
> Geoff Seidner
>
> From: g87
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:48 PM
> To: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
> Subject: Survey 2 State solution
>
> Prof. Ifat Maoz
> Hebrew University
>
> Dear Professor Maoz
> I wish to be advised as to exactly how the survey was conducted at 
> your end and whether there was any variation with respect to how 
> Prof. Khalil Shikaki carried out matters at his end.
>
> As a simple overview – I think there were a lot of questions asked: 
> what was offered as compensation / inducement for both / either 
> groups?
>
> I would expect to be paid for responding to such a lot of questions. 
> There is nothing anomalous /  wrong with the above scenario re 
> compensation.
>
> Regards
> Geoff Seidner
> Melbourne
> Australia
>
>
> http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Hebrew-U-survey-finds-most-Israelis-and-Palestinians-support-two-state-solution-336744
>
> http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-israelis-palestinians-support-2-state-solution/
>
> http://support.huji.ac.il/HeaderMenu/news-events/press/truman_survey_two-states/
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/smarthuji/ifatmaoz
>
> http://new.huji.ac.il/en/article/18531
> http://bit.ly/de13poll.
>
> ---
> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus 
> protection is active.
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Professor Ifat Maoz
Hebrew University of Jerusalem
On Sabbatical leave at the Department of Psychology, Stanford University

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